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Good Snow = Great Flow!

Thursday, May 8th, 2008

Throughout the winter and spring, we at ECHO World HQ have watched in wonder as the snow continued to fall in the Salmon River Basin. Why does the snowpack excite us you wonder? Do we get so bored in the off-season that we start using kayaks as sleds? No, it is because lots of snow provides great river flow throughout the summer!

As of today, the snowpack for the Salmon River Watershed is 22% above average. This means the Middle Fork of the Salmon River promises high flows and excitement in June. Our July and August trips should be perfect for families and most trips should launch at Boundary Creek and cover the entire 100 miles. If you haven’t already booked your trip, this would be a great year to experience the glory of the Middle Fork!

Check-out the new Sawtooth Camera with real-time views of the Sawtooth Mountains from Stanley at www.SawtoothCamera.com.

Definition of Mancation

Thursday, March 27th, 2008

man·ca·tion (măn-kã′shen) n. 1. a coming together of men to celebrate all things man. 2. an annual activity comprised of great friends that is limited to men and can include some or all of the following: climbing trees, getting lost, picking on the weak ones, excessive drinking, and discussions of the finer things in life. 3. an opportunity for men to relive their college days. This event usually ends in some sort of prison term or injury. v. mancationed, -tioning, -tions [Middle English mancacioun, from Old French mancation, from Latin manvacatio, freedom, release from occupation, from manvacare, to be empty, to be free. See mancate.]

Learn more about Mancation on the Middle Fork

$400 Discount on August Middle Fork Trips

Wednesday, March 26th, 2008

Rafting on the Middle Fork of the SalmonHere at ECHO, we believe that everyone deserves a vacation, especially during these challenging economic times. We want to do our part to make sure your family and friends get to experience the glory of the outdoors this summer.

We are pleased to announce a $400 price reduction on all regularly priced Middle Fork of the Salmon River trips during the month of August! We think there is no better place to spend quality time with family and friends then this famed Wild & Scenic river. You will spend 6 days rafting through a truly incredible wilderness area and 5 nights camping under the sky. ECHO will provide fantastic meals, fun and safe river guides and a truly memorable experience for you and your loved ones.

And there’s more great news! The water on the Middle Fork promises to be better than it has been for years. Idaho’s snowpack is 20% greater than normal this year, which means the river will have ideal water levels throughout the month of August.

Learn more about the Middle Fork of the Salmon

DeRiemer Kayak Trips Waiting List Now Open

Friday, December 28th, 2007

Each year, we offer 2 very popular trips with kayak gurus Phil and Mary DeRiemer. These are highly regarded trips and tend to fill early. Here’s an update as of December 31, 2007.

  • There are no kayak spaces and 3 raft spaces left on the June 25, 2008 trip.
  • The July 3, 2008 trip is sold out.

we have started a waiting list for kayak spots on both trips.

This River Is My River, This River Is Your River

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007

The song sung to the tune of THIS LAND IS YOUR LAND, THIS LAND IS MY LAND…..

Chorus:
This river is my river
This river is your river
From the top of the canyon
Down to the Salmon
It’s Wild and Scenic
So it’s protected.
This river is here for you and me.

While we go boating
The sweep is floating
Guides set our tents up
Wow! what a setup.
They cook our dinners
Meals are always winners
This river is here for you and me.

CHORUS

This trip has young kids
This trip has old kids
The valley’s golden
The mountain’s awesome
The hot springs roast us
Our Zach, we toast him
This river is here for you and me

CHORUS

The rock’s on the right side
Jerry goes to the left side
On a rock, go high side!
Jerry goes low side.
Disaster looms ahead,
ECHO guides are there instead.
This river is made for you and me.

CHORUS

Wrens on the river
Music surrounds us
And at the campsite
We get the real treat.
Laurie and Tom have come
To lead us all is song
This river is here for you and me.

This river is my river
This river is your river
From the top of the canyon
Down to the Salmon
It’s Wild and Scenic
So it’s protected.
This river is here for you and me.

by Emily Harris, a guest on the July 23, 2007 “Bluegrass on Whitewater” trip.

Lake Creek Update - June 16, 2007

Thursday, June 21st, 2007

Fires associated with the Pistol Creek fire of 2000 charred the Lake Creek watershed. Since then two microburst storms have caused mud and trees to slide down Lake Creek and block the river. The most recent occurred last summer and caused the blockage at Pistol Creek Rapid that was removed by the Forest Service. During that time, we had a trip on the water that had to end early and you can read more about that trip here. Earlier this spring, higher water moved some logs around in the new Lake Creek Rapid which has made it more difficult, especially for sweep boats.

Lake Creek RapidThis is the account of our last trip that passed through the Lake Creek Rapid. We launched on the Middle Fork on June 16 and arrived above Lake Creek on the morning of June 17th with a sweep boat, oar boat, paddle boat, and three kayaks. We’d been here two weeks before so we had a good idea of what the rapid looked like. Since then, the river had dropped almost a foot and some logs seemed to have moved around.

The long rapid below Lake Creek consists of three main parts. The entrance is fairly tight and there is a large vertical tree on the left side that water is piling up against. Next are three smaller vertical trees in the middle of the current. The rapid ends as the river heads straight for the rootball of a fallen tree. It looks like there are three large trees there and they are more or less parallel with the current. Running into these trees would be dangerous. You can however make a hard move to the right into a small eddy to avoid the trees. Below here, the current swifty leads into Pistol Creek Rapid.

Our first reaction after looking at the rapid is that it was easier and safer than when we’d run it on May 30th for our Salmon Supreme trip. The water wasn’t moving as fast or as strong into the trees at the bottom. We decided it was safe to run and we asked our guests to walk around the rapid as there was no benefit of extra people in the rapid above the dangerous logs. Plus, the rapid isn’t all that much fun anyway.

Ian rowing the bottom of Lake Creek

Ian went first. Two weeks ago, his oar boat hit the logs at the bottom and he was a little freaked out from that incident. He went left of the three trees in the middle of the rapid and reported that it was shallow. This time he took a stronger reverse ferry angle at the bottom and crossed the eddy line on the bottom right perfectly. Then Dave went in the paddle assist boat with two guides as paddlers. They made it down effortlessly.

This was followed by three kayakers running the rapid. We were a bit nervous about kayaks running this rapid since a flipped kayak could easily be swept into the rootball or the logs at the bottom. After talking with these guys in camp, we realized that they were solid kayakers from stories of the many Class V runs that they’ve done. They had no problems and, in fact, easily caught the right side eddy at the bottom of the rapid.

Sweep Boat at Lake CreekFinally, I ran the sweep boat down with Shay. We entered the top and came precipitiously close to the tree in the entrance. Then I pulled hard on the sweeps and rode the slack water down the right side of the current. This allowed us to easily run right of the three trees. Then I dropped the sweeps as we went through the hole. After the hole I had plenty of time to recover and pull the sweep boat and put the nose in the eddy and the bottom next to the trees. As soon as the stern hit the eddy, the boat was pulled strongly to the right. It wanted to spin and I let it so that we ran backwards down the right side.

Later that night I walked up to Helfrich camp and talked to Christian, one of the most experienced and competent sweep boat drivers on the Middle Fork. He said that he ran left of the three trees, and was able to run the bottom part without spinning around backwards.

Note: This information is accurate as of June 17, 2007. The entire rapid is dynamic and things could change day to day. Please scout and use your own judgment.

Salmon Supreme Trip Report

Wednesday, June 6th, 2007

by Rick Groff

Middle Fork of the Salmon RiverThe 2007 Salmon Supreme rafting crew huddled in their sleeping bags at Boundary Creek Camp in the early morning hours of May 29th- waiting for the morning chill to lift and the guests to arrive. Frost lined the bag openings from frozen breaths, a 0 degree bag needed it’s occupant to dress in fleece to help ward off the cold. It was 20+ degrees and no one wanted out. It was still better than the first put in here last year where our ECHO River Trips crew faced several inches of new snow while rigging the boats and waiting for early morning put in.

There were six of us on this year’s crew: Colleen, the consummate rafting queen whose river skills are unquestioned and pleasant demeanor infectious; Ian, an earnestly solemn and talented guide whose years on the Middle Fork are punctuated with stints as a professional fishing guide in Montana; Zach, who will be arriving with the guests on the transport bus from Stanley shortly, is the pacesetter for the three primary guides and the source of boundless creatively positive energy and an obvious card carrying member of the “Too Much Fun” club.

Rounding out the guide group are the AB’s (Assistant Boaters- those of us working this trip to gain our Idaho guide’s certification for the Middle Fork) including Geoff, a rapier witted guide from ECHO’s Rogue operation whose humor and general good nature are contagious; Ori- a hard working and eager young Oregonian attempting to work her way into an ECHO summer position on the Rogue and yours truly, a middle aged man trapped in a boy’s brain, with issues of existential uncertainty for which rafting helps serve as a temporary elixer.

Riding as safety kayakers are JT and Dave two long time ECHO guides whose familiarity and comfort on the Middle Fork are undisputed and very obvious. These two are dialed in.

Chris and Linda on the RiverThe guests arrive at mid-morning. Chris and Linda, a middle-aged couple of inexhaustible good cheer; Alex, a helpful and friendly retired adventurer, Lloyd, a reserved engineer from the South West whose love for the outdoors will become clear; Jody, an exceedingly fit family practice doctor with a gift for Southern understatement, and, of course, Bill the ECHO River Trips legend who has more trips down the Middle Fork with the company than some of it’s newer guides. His ribald good humor with an East Coast bite will provide all with constant entertainment. Bill is generous to a fault.

We leave Boundary in 2 Avon Spirits, the 18′ workhorses of most river operations, a 14′ Adventurer used as the paddle raft on which most will travel down the river and the Cataraft a 16′ pair of tubes lashed to an aluminum frame and able to withstand nearly any significant river condition. It’s a beautifully sunny Idaho morning. The water is cold, the guests eager and the guides banter comfortably.

First night’s camp is about 20 miles downstream at Dolly Lake. The guests and guides are tired after a long day of rigging, orientation and getting accustomed to the rigors of paddling through a series of Class III and IV rapids including the sudden appearance of Velvet Falls, a Class IV falls that inspires discussion if not trepidation with most groups. Lessons on “Groover” etiquette are explained and the elimination habits of more than a few people will change markedly for the next 7 days.

Salmon dinner is prepared, eaten and commended by all. Tents are rigged, paco pads and sleeping bags laid and the darkness of our first river night consumes the canyon.

Lake Creek Rapid BlowoutDay 2 is protracted as guests rise slowly from that first uncertain night’s sleep on the water’s edge. After a filling breaky we raft down past Lake Creek’s blowout where a large logjam has given away creating a treacherous section of the river that requires scouting and a decision to unload the guests and have the guides take the rafts through. An incorrect move or bad timing would be sure to have less than desirous consequences involving large trees, giant root balls and fast moving, cold water. Providence and rafting skills shine and the trip is able to continue with the mornings events captured on digital memory cards for later embellishment.

The day’s float takes us past Sunflower Hot Springs where pleasingly warm water flows up through these mountains and then accumulates in small sitting pools only to then flow out off the rock ledge assisted by an old hollowed log to create a bucolic river shower that most avail themselves of. Onward, past Middle Fork Lodge where the rich and super rich stay and are pampered to the tune of a week’s wages spent for the luxury of a single night in a small cabin along the same river that sustains our travel.

Night 2 is at Whitey Cox camp at mile 46. Whitey’s grave sits on the bench above the beach, the spot where he died placer mining in 1954 at the age of 40. Ian prepares BBQ rib eye steaks and the kitchen crew wrangles together a wonderful salad and garlic mashed potatoes. As is customary, the beer flows- the guests seem more relaxed as their familiarity with one another and the guides matures. The weather is warm . . . life is good.

Day 3 on the river begins as the sun rises over the canyon’s Eastern edge. We’re on the water at 9:45 after a collaborative effort to breakdown camp and rig gear. The goal today is to raft nearly 30 miles to Survey camp at Mile 75. It’s a big day on the water for the paddle crew as they pass through the Tappan Rapds without incident but with river blasts to their upper body. It’s then off to Haystack/Bernard Rapid a dynamic section that has changed recently as the result of debris flows from nearby Pole and Bernard Creeks. At this flow it’s a fairly easy run for the bigger boats. The paddlers are treated to a 5-minute excursion through an arcade style wave train with giant water crests plowing over and into their raft, the screams are honest and real.

Middle Fork GuidesWe reach Survey Camp at 4:30 and set about derigging the boats with one hand and holding a beer with the other. Tonight is special- it’s fajitas and “Riverritas” the ECHO combination of ample portions of Mr. Cuervo, lime aid, beer and fresh lime over ice. Food, drinks and good conversation are offered and consumed until the darkness sends the guests off to bed. Unnamed crewmembers will wait up in an attempt to see the anticipated Blue Moon rising that is supposed to materialize tonight. However, the only thing that materializes at our camp by close to dawn is an empty Riverrita cooler and several headaches.

The last day on the Middle Fork begins in customary fashion. The Blaster starting at 6:00 am for coffee, breakfast is shopped and the staples of tea, cereal, oatmeal, sugar, honey, etc are placed on the drink/cup table. A Dutch oven fries a side of bacon confirming the adage that when river trips float . . . pigs die. Ori concocts a beautiful collection of pancakes with the requisite fruit; the morning is a success despite the fact that we know we’re leaving this beautiful canyon. All trip members are by now a, mostly, integral whole. This transition is one of the most marvelous events that occurs on these multi-day trips. From strangers to family in a couple memorable float days- wow, were it just so easy on the outside! Perhaps Government’s could take notice of this psychological phenomenon?

On to the Main Salmon and a rendezvous with our hosts there the Sawtooth Adventure Company. We leave Survey Camp and, shortly thereafter, roar through Redside and Weber Rapids as a prelude to Rubber, Hancock and House rapids. These were big water rapids with large wave trains and some spotty rock gardens. Lots of fun and no one wants to stop. Unfortunately, the river flows only one way.

We turn the corner and meet the Main Salmon at mile 96. We’ve had three days of fun, excitement and growth on this wonderful Middle Fork. Yet, there’s one more big rapid, Cramer Creek, to run before we rest for the day. We scout, decide and run; lots of screams and hoots. We’re at camp at Cache Bar on the Main Salmon by 4:00 PM- its 82 degrees, we have a sandy beach and Koob on the upper shelf- our new friends/guides show.

Eric, the owner of Sawtooth, is now trip leader; an elfish ex-actor with a colossal sense of humor and a deep understanding of the Main Salmon river shed and an admirable work ethic he fills the position well. Becka and Johnny are his assistants. Bill and KristaWe also pick up Krista, a longtime ECHO guide taking the season off to marry her sweetheart in Utah. She is a funster: vibrant, helpful and a welcome addition.

The afternoon and evening at Cache Bar are relaxing. Lots of sun, sand, beer and games. Some of the guests swim and all enjoy themselves. JT and Dave will leave us tomorrow. They cook up a memorable BBQ cheeseburger dinner enjoyed by all.

Our 5th day is on the Main Salmon and begins early- we’re on the river by 8:30 AM- it’s a 40 mile day. Lots of big water but without the technical moves on the Middle Fork. It’s warm; the water is not so cold- it beats being at the office. We arrive at Big Mallard Camp at 4:30; the group is tired but upbeat. It’s been a great day covering 40 miles of the Main Salmon in about 8 hours. Appetizers and beer are offered and willingly accepted by most. Dinner is ample and enjoyed.

Day 6 of the trip starts with a big breakfast of custom egg sandwiches and Canadian bacon and fruit. We get on the river by 9:30 AM. Paddle rafters have a big day on large wave trains. Camp was to have been Lower Bull Creek but there is a party there so we raft down another two miles to California Creek, a large, sandy and classic main campsite.

Paco ManWe are soon introduced to Paco man who, in his regular job runs Sawtooth Adventure Company. Paco man’s claim to fame is wrapping himself in one or two 2″ thick Paco pads and allowing himself to be thrown into the river with lovely women and Rogue River guides. Paco man entertains evryone until self-discipline dictates otherwise. The evening is spent in a modified Bocce Ball game and ammo can tug of war. Colleen, the gifted athlete, reigns supreme. The group appears to be amazed and amused at the theater appearing before them with the backdrop of canyon walls and the flowing river.

The last day of the trip begins with wonderful breakfast of bagel sandwiches with lox. It’s an early two-hour float to take out. We need to be there by 11:00 Am as most of the guests fly out of McCall at around 3:00PM and it’s a two hour shuttle. We have a big rapid to deal with however. We scout and run Chittum Rapid immediately above Vinegar Creek where we are about to finish our trip. Zach takes the paddle boat trough a tricky chute on river right again impressing the group with his leadership and boating skills, Colleen takes her Spirit in backwards on a reverse ferry showing her fearlessness and proficiency on the river. The rest of us make it through with grand success as well. Voices are hoarse from all the yelling the last week.

Group PhotoTake out goes smooth. The bus for the guests is late- stress takes over. It appears as the truck loaded with guests leaves for the airport. Hugs, promises of future trips and good cheer are everywhere- maybe a tear here and there as well. It’s tough to leave your new family so soon after you’ve found them. The last we see of our new friends is their van’s trailer’s taillights turning the bend. Hot showers and clean sheets have to be on their minds- it is ours.

A few of us lay on the boat ramp reminiscing the last few days. It’s warm with a slight breeze, we’re tired and not looking forward to the 10+ hour drive back to the Salmon guide house. We laugh, tease and then, leave.

Duckie! Trips on the Middle Fork and the Rogue

Wednesday, April 25th, 2007

It is no secret the the Middle Fork of the Salmon River and the Rogue River are two of America’s best rafting trips. With spectacular scenery, awesome wildlife, and perfect Class III rapids, the Rogue and Middle Fork make for ideal family vacations. For families looking for a few more thrills and spills than a 16-foot raft can provide, ECHO River Trips is now offering unique wilderness adventures: four to six day family expeditions down Oregon’s friendly Rogue River and Idaho’s pristine Middle Fork of the Salmon River, using only inflatable kayaks.

Inflatable Kayaks (Duckies)What makes these trips different from ECHO’s regular raft trips? Instead of riding as passengers or paddlers in a big raft, each guest will paddle their own kayak for the entire stretch of the river. With help from experienced professional guides, guests will rig their own drybags onto their kayaks. Once boats are rigged and the “expedition” is ready to go, guests will experience whitewater in the most exciting way possible: up close and personal. With just a paddle, and directions from the fearless leaders, each person in a duckie! will paddle through boulder slaloms, plunge into frothy holes, and glide over glassy waves to their heart’s content. Maneuverable, stable, and incredibly fun, duckies! allow adventurers to challenge the rapids on their own for a more personalized whitewater experience than rafting. Because each person has their own kayak, Duckie! trips travel light and fast, allowing more opportunities enjoy the marvels of these premier river canyons. There will be ample time to hike in the side canyons, soak in natural hot springs, take photos of wildlife, and examine Native American pictographs and other archeological sites on the Rogue and Middle Fork canyons.

The progression of the rapids is perfect for beginner paddlers because by the time the trip enters the Impassable Canyon or Mule Creek Canyon, with the most challenging whitewater, everyone will have gained confidence and experience on the easier rapids upstream. Negotiating the fun yet safe Class III rapids is an empowering bonding experience for the whole family. On Duckie! trips, the emphasis is on exploration and adventure over luxury in camp. This minimalist style of river trips embodies the spirit of wilderness adventure on which ECHO River Trips was founded over 35 years ago and creates lasting memories and tall tales that will be retold for years.

We are offering a duckie! trip on the Rogue River in June and on the Middle Fork of the Salmon in August. Learn more about duckie! trips click

“Be a Kid Again” Pricing on the Middle Fork

Tuesday, April 10th, 2007

Rafts on the Middle Fork of the SalmonEver dream of fliying into a beautiful remote airstrip? Do you love fishing crystal clear water? Do you want to be a kid again?

There is plenty of space on our August Middle Fork of the Salmon trips. To make the trips more attractive, we’re offering our special kids pricing to adults for the month of August.

August is a wonderful time on the Middle Fork. The river levels are lower than June and July, but the rapids are still exciting. Many people choose the sensational experience of navigating the river on their own in an inflatable kayak or “duckie.” Our six day August trips begin by flying into the remote wilderness airstrip at Indian Creek where you’ll meet the guides and begin your journey.

We are also offering a shorter three day option during the month of August. On these trips, you’ll fly into an airstrip at the Flying B Ranch and float 35 miles through the famous Impassable Canyon. This is a great way to see the most striking part of the Middle Fork and spend two nights in the wilderness. Click here to learn more about our three day trips.

Salmon River Snowpack Report

Friday, March 2nd, 2007

Recent storms in the mountains of Idaho have increased the snowpack to 83% of average as of March 2, 2007 for the Salmon River basin. This is great news for our trips on the Middle Fork of the Salmon for this summer.

The Middle Fork is a free flowing river, it has no dams on it that control the flow of water. That means that the water that we float down in the summers is due to winter snowpack, spring rain, and summer temperatures. We like to have snowpack between 80% and 120% of average. From experience we have found that this range of snowpack gives us runnable flows through August while keeping the water at a reasonable level during the June runoff.

This is especially good news for the Salmon Supreme trip that starts on May 29th. Since we run both the Middle Fork and Main Salmon in seven days, we need higher water flows to do the 160 - 185 miles that we’re planning on covering in such a short time. Below average snowpack means that the road Boundary Creek should open by then so that we can run the entire 100 miles of the Middle Fork. When the road is closed we have to fly into Indian Creek and miss the exciting upper 25 miles.

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